Fri, 2010/01/01 - 00:07

Hi All,

Sorry that I have not been able to contribute lately. I have been on holidays and travelling to places with reduced internet capabilities.

I will comment here again rather than to one of the other few discussions that have been created and might get people lost.

Thanks Kester and Frans for your answer I just want to add that it is great to use some of the modules you are explaining but I still don't understand why the simpler things are not done better first and then put more time into the more complex ones. I know using the modules page as an example of site speed is not a measure of what a normal page takes to load but it is a great measure of the amount of modules you are using. My opinion is that things should be kept simple, get the simple things right and the rest will follow. You just need to a site to publish volunteer opportunities, villages and for users to be able to find their way through both. That really does not need a huge amount of modules. As an example, look at Kiva.org as an example. Not the best looking site but it is doing the work, why?, they are keeping it simple. Opportunities search based on 6 simple fields on a sortable table. The formula is really not that hard. Keep it simple.

I still have mixed feelings about the NabuurCamp but would like to hear what others think about it. Maybe there is another discussion about it somewhere else but did not get a chance to find it.

Getting volunteers involved in development and other things is great but expecting that it could run just with volunteers is what I am not so sure about. In any camp concept there is always a leader of the project that will do all the hard continuous work. I give myself as an example, I love helping and I thought I was going to have time while on holidays but the reality is other, we all have things we need to attend to survive and to continue our lives, time over a weekend is fine but in the long run I don;t think it is sustainable to expect people to put add a constant amount of time over a long period of time and on a volunteering basis.

Just one questions I would like ask before applying to be at the camp:

- How many volunteer web developers and designers with experience in community building and Drupal 6 have applied to be at the camp?

I would love to hear what others think.

Raul

Hi Raul,

Sorry, it really doesn't make sense answering Kester in this thread. I see you've copied the post in the development thread, I think Kester will find it there. I'll also copy the bit about the NABUUR Camp to that group.

If this way of organizing the different discussions doesn't work for you and you have a better idea - let me know. Keeping everything in one thread doesn't work for me.

Pelle

Hi Pelle,

Yes, it does not work for me that way. The one in the development one is for Kester and the other one is for everyone else to see. I feel there are things here that matter to everyone not just to Kester.

I also find it frustrating that while we try to stay positive and finding a way to stay active in the current situation the only thing I hear from you is a complaint regarding re-posting for all to see a comment that I feel not only matters to the development team.

Best wishes,

Raul

I really have a tight schedule and to be able to meet up a village and talk to the community is one thing....to tell you that in the internet is quite another......DONT ASSUME that what is on the ground and what is written is the same....look at one post where someone is posting pictures and talking about his project while on that post people are talking about how to run Nabuur?Thats what you get before doing a needs assessment...thats what you get for not letting people know how to work on the net...thats what you get when you have NOT been to villages.....there is a total confusion with how messages and what is being said.....apart from that i think get a wide range of views....if we continue putting ourselves in a "group" of people who keep it...even in the forums and the villages at one time i though that its was a post just for a few people who have been chosen by that village and i quit giving my input and thats what i think Open up to others.

i wish to inform you that am intersted to join nabuur on line

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thanks for the volunteering work and continue with the same
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muirunjui

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Holy Child Children Home for Orphans and Poor of Very poor
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Principal
Biju Narzary
Holy Child Children Home for Orphans and Poor of Very poor
Dist: Udalguri
Pin: 784509

Your right Jennifer,

I have seen most of the projects ending up like like that without sustainability.
I believe we must first look into the future of these projects and discuss possible means of sustainability.

Moses

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Review design issues and get these projects on sustainability path.

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