Should we Charge Villagers a Small Fee for These Improvements?

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Engage in a discussion as to whether we should charge the villagers a small fee for these improvements, or raise the money ourselves.

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What are "these improvements" mentioned in your message?

Vijai

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To make the borehole pump water both during dry and wet seasons, but apparently it has been pumping during wet seasons only.

frank

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Hello Frank,

If the pumping happens only during wet season, the problem could be due to lower water table during the dry season. The remedy will be to dig deeper, and depending on the new depth, you may be able to use the same pump if the new depth is within its range, or get a new pump to handle greater depths.

The solution to depths and suitability of the existing pump will be provided by the experts in this field on the ground in your region.

Vijai

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Hi Vijai,

Thanks for enlightning be about the borehole now i understand. now in our village to get an expert who is avolunteer its quite difficult, iam suggesting can u come up here and help us in the construction since u avolunteer?

i luck your reply

frank

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Hello Frank,

Thank you for the invite. I can only help you from the other end of the internet. You will need to contact people on the ground in your region for this problem, as suggested in my last post.

To start with, you must start collecting information from the owners of wells immediately in the neighborhood of your well, and get information about the depth of the water table in their wells. Out of these you must shortlist those wells which are able to pump water during the dry season. The depths of these wells will be required in your well, since these are immediately in the vicinity of your well, and what applies to these wells will also apply to your well.

Since the water table will keep going deeper over the years, you will need to add a margin to the estimated depth. This extra margin will depend on how much the water table reduces each year in your region.

After the above is done, you must then contact the professionals on the ground in your region for advising you on the capacity of the new pump (assuming the existing pump is unable to pump water from the greater depth), and the new depth for the well. Contact at least three different groups. From this advice you will be able to get an approximate idea of the expenses involved.

Once your funds are arranged, you can then finalize the contract for digging deeper and installing the new pump if required.

A caution to be ensured - entrust this work 'only' to professionals with proven experience on the ground in your region.

Vijai

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Hi Vijai,

Thank you for giving us that good advice, will certanlly use it. Now i have i qn for you!!! How do you see when we start getting good drinking water from your sweat? i mean by sending us some funds? thats metioned in this project. I believe u being an engineer, atleast u anot like us who are peasant farmers.So i have lotts of hope in you guy because you a kind person indeed!!!

i luck your
sincerely
frank

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Hi Frank,

My advice is intended to help those who wish to help themselves. Your struggle might reduce and you could get to your goal faster due to such advice. This is something that you cannot do with money. Money does not solve all problems. I do not involve with funding or fund-raising. Nevertheless, as mentioned in my last post, you must first determine the approximate funds required. After this figure is known, you must then attempt fund-raising. In addition to donations, other routes for funding could be through contributions from the community, or loans from banks or other lenders. You must also check with your local government about any welfare measures for providing drinking water to the affected population.

Vijai

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Dear mr Vijai,

Thanks for your advice but all what you say where said by our expert whom we met{wastage of time} and funds became aproblem.You know some people adangerousely greedy, But stop blocking assistance from neighbours who may help,forexample i saw u blocking people in my basket ball project, Otherwise thank u for comming to the answer of this task well done! great indeed!! thats why we brought it on board.And if u have any contacts release them if u wish.

in kind

frank

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Hello again, Frank,

Your reply is interesting indeed. It is amply clear now that you are seeking ONLY funds, and that you consider any other useful advice as a "wastage of time" as you have mentioned in your post above. I am sure this clarification will help all who wish to interact on your tasks in future.

Meanwhile, best wishes, Frank.

Vijai

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Kenya, Njiru Sewage Slums/Village.

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WELL I NEED TO KNOW THE IMPROVEMENT BEING TALKED A BOUT SO THAT
I CAN MAKE AN IMPORTANT AND CONSTRUCTIVE REMARK.OTHERWISE IT IS GOOD TO APPRECIATE A WORK WELL DONE BY PAYING A SMALL FEES, FOR MORE IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MADE.

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Dear Josephat,

We are trying to determine whether or not to charge the villagers a fee for renovating the bore hole and/or the pump for the water in the village, such that water flows during the dry season as well as the rainy season...

Any comments you might have along these lines would be greatly appreciated!!!

Sincerely,

Phil Costa FAC

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Hi,
I personally don't think it sounds very fair to charge the villagers unless they are able to contribute. Perhaps a better way would be to ask if anyone would like to donate money towards the improvements or involve them in finding a way to raise the money,for example organising an event which helped raise the money and awareness of your project at the same time. This would help them to feel empowered and strengthen the community by encouraging them to work together for a common goal. This is only a suggestion and it may not be possible but it may be worth a try.
Amy

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I think its not a good idea to charge the village. We are suppose to deliver aid and not charge them for something.

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Dear Amy, Vijai, Frank and Jeremy,

Amy, I think you misunderstood me... The issue is not charging the villagers for services; the issue is that Frank asked Vijai to help fund the project and Vijai snapped back at him... This is a problem across all NABUUR villages, I hear... I don't think Frank was being greedy; it's just that the situation in Busukuma is so dire... For my part, I can attest that Frank has never begged me for any money!!! Vijai, we need your technical expertise, and Frank, come back!!! We forgive you if you can forgive us!!!

-- Phil

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Hi Phil,

There was no 'snapping' involved in my reply to Frank when I mentioned that I do not involve with funding or fund-raising. In an earlier reply to Frank's request for me to visit his village to solve his problem, I had also clarified that I can only help from the other end of the internet. You might appreciate Phil, that these are straight-forward professional replies from me without beating about the bush, and certainly meant to clear the air about the nature of my involvement on nabuur.

It might save a lot of everybody's time and efforts if tasks on such villages are very clearly specified to reflect that funding is the sole purpose of the task - so that fund-providers know where to focus on, and all others can stay off such tasks.

I guess we must all appreciate Frank for terming any technical advice as a "wastage of time" as he has mentioned in his last post above. This further reinforces the sole and dire need for funds, and ONLY funds.

Nevertheless, I have already advised Frank on the basic technical issues about this well. Do let me know if there are any specific queries.

Cheers

Vijai

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