Pig farming as an income generating business

Status: Needs urgent help
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We need advice on local pig feeds, forage so any ideas are welcome so that we can supplement the maize bran and eventually reduce costs on feed.

This project has just started and we aim to have it up and running in January 2010. we have 5 youths who have already signed up for this project and need your help to make it happen.

We have raised so far the money for the local piglets but have no accomodation and would like to build something permanent to ensure continuity of the project.

Your assistance financial or otherwise will be highly appreciated.

Attached is our project proposal.

Joanne

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Project: Pig farming
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Thanks chris & Johnson
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Yours in Service
JIS Birungi

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Pigs are a good business. That is a fact. They eat those things you listed which is great. Bran has no protein if I understand correctly what that is. The fish is supplying the protein. Bran is a stomack filler. No food value. To do well animals must have the proper nutrients.

One time a farmer told me he had the imported chickens because they lay more eggs. I told him that the native chickens would lay a lot of eggs if he would feed them like he feeds the imported ones. He did not feed the native chickens so they were hungry most of the time and could not lay many eggs.

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Thanks Ken. Pliz Can you help with my dilema? The fish used for pig feed commonly in Uganda is very small fish known as mukene( silver fish). Which cant be farmed and only can be got from the lake. Given that an area may be far from a lake or too expensive to buy, can any other fish do like tilapia that can be farmed. If so, does one have to pick the bones from the flesh before they feed the pigs or they do it themselves?.
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Yours in Service
JIS Birungi

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Feed fish, bones and all to the pigs as far as I know. I have never heard of feeding fish to pigs before. Normally, too expensive. Usually, grain is used for protein for pigs or meat that humans do not eat. A pig will eat just about anything. I know little about fish farming. I really do not like fish. God made pigs so I do not have to eat fish!!!

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Thanks Susanne for this effort. We will see how we can join hands in this project as learning experience

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Stanley Okurut

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U r welcome Stanley, just trying to find a solution to the pig feed expense given that in a few months we will have 80 piglets.lol. Even when half is sold off, 40 is an exciting yet daunting number at the thought of feed. So we need all the wealth of experience and input you have to offer to make this a success. Am thinking if the fish are fed duckweed and worms not much an expense as the worms are got from the vermicomposting already happening on farm. Duckweed cultured for fish, chicken and pigs. Ask Hassan more about duckweed when you meet on Tuesday, he's meeting an official from NARO on Monday to explore the possibilities. In the meantime , share all and hopefully we can all become self sustaining soon.
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Yours in Service
JIS Birungi

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Thanks Ken. It is just that grain is becoming so expensive. Fish would be too if one has to buy it, but we are considering farming it so what isnt sold on or given away can be used.
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Yours in Service
JIS Birungi

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Most countries use cottonseed meal, soybean meal, etc for protein for animals. Peanuts are high in protein. Any kind of seed will work that the pigs will eat.

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Thanks Ken , those feed are there but the biggest problem is accessing them, we need yellow pages and a serious online presence for sellers. However, got some information about growing pigs on a leaf based system in Haiti. Using moringa Olifera trees and Leuceana. Sounds very interesting as the moringa leaves provide the protein. Has anyone more information about this?. Eitherway, so excited as Esther (Kisozi) Village donated to us moringa seeds. However 30 moringa trees and 10 Leuceana feed a pig. Great integration with Agroforestry & land reclaimation. Even fish farmers have a reason to be happy, moringa is used as tilapia feed.

Stanley , Simon & others who may be interested the links are here:

http://news-malunggay-moringa-by-youmanitas.blogspot.com/2009/02/lowly-b...

http://news-malunggay-moringa-by-youmanitas.blogspot.com/2009/02/raising...

Mr Paul Ronk, the gentleman who started this system can be reached on the address below. If any neighbour can help us contact him so that we can get full instruction on this system we will be more than greatful.

Lynx Air International, P.O. Box 407139, Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33340, USA.

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Yours in Service
JIS Birungi

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HI Joanne

In respond to your request, I have got a permaculture expert for you.
I have sent you a private message. do get in touch.

cheers
Cecilia

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Thanks so much Cecilia. I have spoken to the Ugandan contact provided Josephine Kiza and shes willing to assist. With Ken's DVDs and her assistance i believe we will do our best on this project. I have sent her our plan so will update as things progress.

Kind regards
Joanne
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Yours in Service
JIS Birungi

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Hi everyone, been awhile but atlast here's the update on this projecct.
The pigs are now four months and the ones shown in the pictures are the better breed. They are in the unfinished pig sty as you can see but we can not spend any money on completing it at the moment as what we originarily allocated is all spent so we are waiting to finish it when we sell the piglets. The local breed pigs and Male Camborough are still in the old housing for now.
--
Yours in Service
JIS Birungi

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I had forgotten about this tree. Yes, an excellant source for pigs and humans. Go to www.echonet.org and you will find a lot of info. If you do not find it, email them and ask them how to find it. They have it. Ask to be put on their mailing list for emails and/or printed materials.

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I have seen 18 stevia seedlings coming up very health plants. They have given me hope and i will maintain them in an organic way. But is there a simple of proccesing them.

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Hi Patrick,how is the Stevia doing? Did you find out the simple way of processing it?

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Yours in Service
JIS Birungi

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