stdClass Object ( [nid] => 249497 [vid] => 251417 [type] => task_discussion [status] => 1 [created] => 1257267942 [changed] => 1257267943 [comment] => 0 [promote] => 1 [sticky] => 0 [revision_timestamp] => 1257267943 [title] => Re: PACODET LOGO [body] => Hi Stanley, I shall be happy to reply to any specific questions on my earlier posts in this thread. In addition, I also look forward to any specific questions not covered in my earlier posts here. It is always good to interact with people who are willing to learn. So let the questions flow... Cheers Vijai [teaser] => Hi Stanley, I shall be happy to reply to any specific questions on my earlier posts in this thread. In addition, I also look forward to any specific questions not covered in my earlier posts here. It is always good to interact with people who are willing to learn. So let the questions flow... Cheers Vijai [log] => [format] => 1 [uid] => 25436 [name] => Vijai Singh [picture] => [data] => a:11:{s:2:"op";s:18:"Create new account";s:6:"submit";s:18:"Create new account";s:7:"form_id";s:13:"user_register";s:16:"captcha_solution";b:1;s:13:"captcha_token";s:32:"709067eb1714f8cbffc7dceb7ff967e0";s:14:"validationdata";a:4:{s:7:"form_id";s:13:"user_register";s:10:"preprocess";b:1;s:6:"module";s:9:"recaptcha";s:4:"type";s:9:"reCAPTCHA";}s:7:"contact";i:1;s:16:"privatemsg_allow";i:1;s:28:"privatemsg_setmessage_notify";i:1;s:16:"nodecomment_sort";s:1:"1";s:17:"messaging_default";s:4:"mail";} [path] => village/kapuwai/project/task/discussion/re-pacodet-logo-15 [field_embedded_video] => Array ( [0] => Array ( [embed] => [value] => [provider] => [data] => Array ( ) ) ) [field_external_link] => Array ( [0] => Array ( [url] => [title] => [attributes] => N; ) [1] => Array ( [url] => [title] => [attributes] => N; ) ) [comment_type] => task_discussion [og_groups] => Array ( [0] => 240503 ) [og_groups_both] => Array ( [240503] => Kapuwai ) [og_public] => 1 [tags] => Array ( [10] => Array ( [6000] => stdClass Object ( [tid] => 6000 [vid] => 10 [name] => logo design [description] => [weight] => 0 [language] => [trid] => 0 ) ) ) [nodewords] => Array ( ) [trid] => 0 [language] => en [i18n_status] => 0 [taxonomy] => Array ( [6000] => stdClass Object ( [tid] => 6000 [vid] => 10 [name] => logo design [description] => [weight] => 0 [language] => [trid] => 0 ) ) [translation] => Array ( ) [cid] => 249497 [pid] => 249468 [hostname] => 59.180.28.155 [thread] => 01.01.00.01.00.00.00/ [mail] => [homepage] => [comment_target_nid] => 249090 [depth] => 6 )

stdClass Object ( [nid] => 249525 [vid] => 251445 [type] => task_discussion [status] => 1 [created] => 1257283777 [changed] => 1257283777 [comment] => 0 [promote] => 1 [sticky] => 0 [revision_timestamp] => 1257283777 [title] => Re: PACODET LOGO [body] => Hi Carolyn, To be honest, I was thinking more in the same line as Vijai did. I'd like to keep the logo the same throughout every piece one uses. But I think I did not present the logo correctly: to me the logo is the image without the text. The text is part of the house style of the organisation, and should not be made smaller if one makes the logo smaller. I wonder if the image alone is unclear if printed in a very small size. I think it is "acceptable", but then again: I made it (spend to much time looking at it) and have little experience in making logos. To me, both reasons outqualify me to really give good judgement about this factor. Kind regards, Lieuwe [teaser] => Hi Carolyn, To be honest, I was thinking more in the same line as Vijai did. I'd like to keep the logo the same throughout every piece one uses. But I think I did not present the logo correctly: to me the logo is the image without the text. The text is part of the house style of the organisation, and should not be made smaller if one makes the logo smaller. [log] => [format] => 1 [uid] => 21333 [name] => Lieuwe [picture] => [data] => a:9:{s:2:"op";s:18:"Create new account";s:6:"submit";s:18:"Create new account";s:7:"form_id";s:13:"user_register";s:7:"contact";i:0;s:16:"privatemsg_allow";i:1;s:28:"privatemsg_setmessage_notify";i:1;s:16:"nodecomment_sort";s:1:"2";s:17:"messaging_default";s:4:"mail";s:8:"og_email";s:1:"2";} [path] => village/kapuwai/project/task/discussion/re-pacodet-logo-18 [field_embedded_video] => Array ( [0] => Array ( [embed] => [value] => [provider] => [data] => Array ( ) ) ) [field_external_link] => Array ( [0] => Array ( [url] => [title] => [attributes] => N; ) [1] => Array ( [url] => [title] => [attributes] => N; ) ) [comment_type] => task_discussion [og_groups] => Array ( [0] => 240503 ) [og_groups_both] => Array ( [240503] => Kapuwai ) [og_public] => 1 [tags] => [nodewords] => Array ( ) [trid] => 0 [language] => en [i18n_status] => 0 [taxonomy] => Array ( ) [translation] => Array ( ) [cid] => 249525 [pid] => 249521 [hostname] => 94.214.184.106 [thread] => 01.01.00.01.00.01.00/ [mail] => [homepage] => [comment_target_nid] => 249090 [depth] => 6 )

stdClass Object ( [nid] => 249581 [vid] => 251515 [type] => task_discussion [status] => 1 [created] => 1257304170 [changed] => 1257304424 [comment] => 0 [promote] => 1 [sticky] => 0 [revision_timestamp] => 1257304424 [title] => Re: PACODET LOGO [body] => Carolyn, In reply to your comment above, let me explain a very basic aspect. A 'logo' is always the 'frozen' element. When the 'logo' (frozen element) is used with other elements like text, the 'logo (frozen element) + 'text (or other elements)' does not become a new logo. In this new arrangement, the 'logo (frozen element)' is still the 'logo'. All other matter like text etc does not become part of the 'logo'. With this I hope that there will be a clarity on what a 'logo' is. As an example, consider the following to understand this: (logo of hp - frozen) + text (Hewlett Packard) below or on either side of the logo This does not imply that the logo has now become another logo (earlier logo + text Hewlett Packard). The 'logo' still remains the same 'frozen' element, irrespective of any other element added around it as text or other graphics. The example of your own organization in your post above would also follow the above basic rules on which professionals in advertising and Communication work and communicate among themselves. There has been no reinventing-the-wheel on this aspect among professionals in this field. So if you look closely at the various 'logos' (as you call them) of your organization, you will notice that there is a common 'frozen' element in all versions - and 'that frozen element' is the 'logo'. All other elements around 'the frozen logo' are not to be confused as being part of the 'logo'. These concepts form the basics for people who operate within the realms of Communication and Advertising. For people on the outside, it really does not matter what they perceive as a 'logo' as far as general communication is involved, and as long as they do not tamper with the designs or create new designs which are contradictory to established norms among professionals in this field. Of course, as I have also mentioned in my previous post here, there are no laws to prevent anyone from creating multiple logos. People enjoy total freedom to create as many logos as they wish, and probably for such organizations there may not be any issues related to Branding. I am yet to see 2 different logos for organizations like IBM, GE, HP, Shell, BP, and thousands and thousands more. Vijai [teaser] => Carolyn, In reply to your comment above, let me explain a very basic aspect. A 'logo' is always the 'frozen' element. When the 'logo' (frozen element) is used with other elements like text, the 'logo (frozen element) + 'text (or other elements)' does not become a new logo. In this new arrangement, the 'logo (frozen element)' is still the 'logo'. All other matter like text etc does not become part of the 'logo'. With this I hope that there will be a clarity on what a 'logo' is. As an example, consider the following to understand this: [log] => [format] => 1 [uid] => 25436 [name] => Vijai Singh [picture] => [data] => a:11:{s:2:"op";s:18:"Create new account";s:6:"submit";s:18:"Create new account";s:7:"form_id";s:13:"user_register";s:16:"captcha_solution";b:1;s:13:"captcha_token";s:32:"709067eb1714f8cbffc7dceb7ff967e0";s:14:"validationdata";a:4:{s:7:"form_id";s:13:"user_register";s:10:"preprocess";b:1;s:6:"module";s:9:"recaptcha";s:4:"type";s:9:"reCAPTCHA";}s:7:"contact";i:1;s:16:"privatemsg_allow";i:1;s:28:"privatemsg_setmessage_notify";i:1;s:16:"nodecomment_sort";s:1:"1";s:17:"messaging_default";s:4:"mail";} [path] => village/kapuwai/project/task/discussion/re-pacodet-logo-19 [field_embedded_video] => Array ( [0] => Array ( [embed] => [value] => [provider] => [data] => Array ( ) ) ) [field_external_link] => Array ( [0] => Array ( [url] => [title] => [attributes] => N; ) [1] => Array ( [url] => [title] => [attributes] => N; ) ) [comment_type] => task_discussion [og_groups] => Array ( [0] => 240503 ) [og_groups_both] => Array ( [240503] => Kapuwai ) [og_public] => 1 [tags] => Array ( [10] => Array ( [6000] => stdClass Object ( [tid] => 6000 [vid] => 10 [name] => logo design [description] => [weight] => 0 [language] => [trid] => 0 ) ) ) [nodewords] => Array ( ) [trid] => 0 [language] => en [i18n_status] => 0 [taxonomy] => Array ( [6000] => stdClass Object ( [tid] => 6000 [vid] => 10 [name] => logo design [description] => [weight] => 0 [language] => [trid] => 0 ) ) [translation] => Array ( ) [cid] => 249581 [pid] => 249521 [hostname] => 59.180.66.128 [thread] => 01.01.00.01.00.01.01/ [mail] => [homepage] => [comment_target_nid] => 249090 [depth] => 6 )