Research and Create a Database-Trekking Agencies

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A large part of our project will revolve around marketing all that the Sankhuwasabha district has to offer. For this task, we are looking for volunteers to help us research and develop a database of trekking agencies located in Kathmandu and also around the world.

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I started a list last night of trekking agencies to get us started. I didn't get very far. This will probably work best if transferred into an Excel spreadsheet at some point. There are literally hundreds of these organizations out there, so maybe we need to target a specific number, or figure out a way to sort through them and target specific ones. Andrew, any thoughts on that?

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When we planned our trek in the Bhutanese Himalayas we based our research on the old proven method-Lonely Planet recommendations. May be you can do the same- get the list of recommended trekking agency from the last Lonely Planet Trekking in the Nepal Himalaya and you will have a good place to start.Later you can trow in some of the agencies in Bhutan (I can help here) and India and voila- a comprehensive list in less than an hour.

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-Tanja

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Tanja-

I was just looking at it, will they just send you one, or do you have to pay for the guide? Maybe I wasn't looking in the right place, but what I saw on their website says it's around $20 for the guide-am I looking in the wrong place?

Jennifer

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Hi Jennifer,

I have Trekking in the Nepal Himalaya 8th edition (it is a bit dated-from 2001),I checked online-the next release is scheduled for August 2009. Two options- I can put together the dated info and somebody can verify that the agencies still exist. Or you can double check with your local library if they have the regular, more recent Nepal guide 7th edition from Sept 2006 and look up the trekking agencies from the trekking section. My Bhutan travel guide book is the most recent edition.

-Tanja

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lonely planet costs about $2o - there are many trekking agencies on the net - search for trekking nepal - they are mostly located in kathmandu

Alot of people use the lonely planet - but mostly single travellers or couples/small groups of 2-3 people. Larger trekking clubs will have their own specialist trekking agencies they work with in kathmandu.

Lonely planet is very popular - so is the rough guide to nepal, this needs to be approached from both sides - either through the agencies in nepal or overseas trekking groups. The agencies in nepal to be honest carry a higher risk as there are more cowboy agencies due to the fact it is a major employer.

You have to distinguish the good from the bad. There are good agencies in the developing world also.
The key question is define specifically how the agency and Tej's project can benefit from each other - because the trekking market is competitive there really needs to be a mutual benefit and a financial gain for the agency - in nepal there are many volunteers approaching many different organisations to raise funds - business partnerships - so people will be competing with you for the attention of the trekking agencies to a certain extent - i.e. what we are trying to do is not a new idea. Some trekking agencies allready promote this typ of activity.

If a list is compiled I can review the websites and try and make a judgement as best I can.

Any comments?

Andy

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just saw list jen - i will take a quick look.

andrew

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Dear Neighbours

Thanks for your posting.

Now I have been studying it.

Tejanath

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Tej - jens list goes in the right direction - there is a mixture of Nepali and Overseas trekking agencies.

Andrew

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Hi Jennifer.

Are we looking for an actual database? And is there one that has been developed yet? The easiest way to create a simple ons is obviously MS-Access. If Ms-Access is not available, Open Office has a database creation tool identical to MS-Access. I use Open Office myself.

I am also a software consultant and with databases so I can help out if you have the data and need it organized into a database.

Bobby

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The first step is the hardest. What follows is an adventure and where you end is all up to you. Take that step.

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Hi Bobby-

Yes, ideally we would like to have a database where contact information can easily be accessed. I am not sure that Tejanath has MS-Access, or Open Office. I was actually thinking of a simple spreadsheet noting basic contact information, but with Access, reports could be drawn up via different search criteria correct?

Jennifer

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Sorry for the late response Jennifer.

Yes, that is correct but I think we need to make things simple here. A spreadsheet would make things simple to start with:

1. Searching for particular names and what not is easy within spreadsheets.
2. Anything less than say 100 records is fine in a spreadsheet.
3. As for reports, Access or any Relational Database Management System (fancy term) is better. But Access requires additional training so we shouldn't go down that path.

Let me know, however, if a template is required on how to store information though. Or that if you even require a database.

Bobby

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The first step is the hardest. What follows is an adventure and where you end is all up to you. Take that step.

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Hi everybody,
I did find this website: http://www.nepal-guide.com/nepal_eco_tourism.htm, they have a lot of trekking oppurtunities and also visits to local communities.

Warm regards, Lotte

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That's a good one Lotte, thank you!

Jennifer

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Hi everyone,

* This organisation offers so-called family holidays to Nepal with low altitude trekkings and visiting local communities.

http://www.explorehimalaya.com/nepal_family_annapurna_holiday.php

I like the 'holiday' factor of it. To offer not only heavy trekkings but also low impact visits.

* Nepal Charity Trek
http://www.nepalguidetrek.com/nepal_charity_tour_treks.php

Jenny

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So I just wanted to be clear about something.

Once this list of trekking companies is compiled, what shall be done with it? Do Sankhuwasabha's tourism related individuals/ organizations contact these trekking groups and tell them about Shankhuwasabha?

The only issue I have is how much of an internet access they have. Nepal faces hours upon hours of load shedding every day. I was also wondering what kind of computer equipment they have.

I've begun working on creating the list in Excel and I have to say a database is definitely needed. Actually, more than a database, what is needed is an outlook or email client contact list. That makes it MUCH MORE SIMPLE!!!

That way they can sort in email client itself.

Say if someone wanted to search for travelling agencies in Kathmandu- they'll sort through the "Locations" search criteria. Also, adding contacts is pretty easy.

I think I'll create an excel spreadsheet and perhaps a tutorial on the email client based on what kind they use.

I therefore recommend using Gmail as an exclusive email client for ALL local organizations. Spread the word on GMAIL. It is clearlyyyyy and by far the best and most secure.

Let me know if what I said makes any sense people.

Thank you!!!

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The first step is the hardest. What follows is an adventure and where you end is all up to you. Take that step.

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