Join the NABUUR Online Teams

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There are already teams forming to develop resources for local communities, to shape the way other platforms like Facebook and Twitter can be engaged to increase the effectiveness, to encourage peer-to-peer engagement, and to deal with certain topics occurring in multiple villages, amongst other things.
Do you have ideas or suggestions on any of these topics? Please join the group!

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Vijai,

You wrote "The focus must shift to 'problem-solving' and 'solutions' on a 'mass scale', and not as 'village-by-village'. To solve 'simultaneously' any particular problem of a hundred villages, imagine a person addressing a gathering of a hundred people on the ground, and each of those hundred people benefit simultaneously. On the other hand, imagine this same person trying to address only one person at a time to solve the same common problem. It will take this person a hundred times more effort and time to explain the solution to a hundred people separately."
I concur. The aim must be more on achieving the needs of the village rather than just allowing communication. Communication is nice but Project Success is the ultimate aim.

The idea of constructing a series of 'groups' say one for Books, Medical, Crops, Schools, etc., with ideally 100 villages in each, all starting at the same level of maturity and then moving the projects along, roughly together, is in principle sound. In fairness that may be a little large to start with, but say 25-40 till the principle is established, and then move to 100. That way they can see the ideas of others, they could and they can have a small number of mentors to help them. (Once a village has been through this process they would be able to assist the next 100. Effectively nabuur would be training the future trainers by good example in the initial stages. Following this approach the expansion could be near exponential rather than linear. That would be a huge step forward.)

The problem we would quickly run into, as Nabuur did, is funding. WE must have a new approach to funding as the method proposed so far could/would potentially result in 100 applications from the 100 villages in the group all approaching the same organization(s) for funds. This is where 'networking' with other groups in my view for Funding, rather than just Communication, is essential. Nevertheless whilst we still have a funding problem here, rather than the solution, I am still convinced this is a better way to go.

Ron.

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Ron,

It was good to read your views.

During the brief period that I have been on nabuur, my general impression is that over 95% villages seem to exist on nabuur solely for the purpose of funds, fund-raising, donations, etc. I have tried in several of such villages to instill the concept of self-sustenance, so that the population can move forward on their own without reliance on external funds. Perhaps nabuur is perceived as a fund-raising site by the villages, since I did not see any signs of progress on self-sustenance. Moving all such villages to a common group like 'Fundraising', which already exists on nabuur, might clear the way for problem-solving on other issues through other groups.

I agree with you that this might create a flood of applications from villages to the same common set of fund-providers. On the other hand, if you take a close look at the suggestions made by some neighbours, you might notice that the same set of fund-providers are being suggested by these neighbours in several villages. Funds still do not seem to be flowing in to the villages. The 'fixation' with funds all over nabuur can perhaps be avoided, or considerably reduced, by directing all fund-related traffic of the villages to the 'Fundraising' group, so that the leftover population can focus on the other issues where funds are not the issue.

This might also make it easy for the serious fund-providers, since all they will have to do is to navigate to the 'Fundraising' group on nabuur, look at the various requirements posted there by the villages, and perhaps visit the pages of some villages to get further details, and then decide further at their end. In case the villages have to themselves approach the fund-providers, these villages are already accessing the same common set of fund-providers in the existing system, so there may not be any harm if these villages operate through the 'Fundraising' group.

The hundred villages in my post was only to illustrate an example. I agree with you that an optimum size of group in any subject could be 25-40 villages, since the existing population on nabuur itself is 253 villages as of now, and most of these villages are dormant. The neighbours could 'train' the 'trainers' at the villages, and these 'trainers at the village' will in turn train the rest of the village, as you have rightly mentioned.

Vijai

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Hi to you all!
Merry Christmass and happy new here!
I am sorry I have not yet seen this message in my yahoo inbox untill now when I left with only ten minutes at the internet cafe! I should say that I am back now!Talk to you later becoause there is one say which says, always intelligent people talk when they have something to contribute. Talk to you soon!

Regards,
Philimon Godfrey!

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Hi all,
Thanks to you all for your good ideas!Ron, Pelle,Jennifer and others your ideas have made me to contribute my one concept here! You know what? Nabuur should create a Fundrising group and these funds should be kept to help those new registered villages! I noted a difficult becouse I think you remember me that at the first time I wanted to register a village(be a local representative)but since I was a student I didn't be able since I were needed to collect some information for planning a relevant project. I think there should be a fundrising group and once these funds are collected should be kept to help these new villages once they are registered at Nabuur! From here onward, they can take there time to find there way at Nabuur as they have been provided with a start up opportunity! Many of the villages are dormant due to the fact that they dont have a starting point. They register then geet nothing. I think this is very dissapointing. Think about other networks which have been Fundrising. What if we will set these so called newsletters for requesting some donotion from well wishers! I think we have to set various stardards for a village to get few for a starting point! I guess these will make Nabuur to a sustainable networks! Am I making any sense here?

Much Regards,
Philimon Godfrey.

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Fri, 2010/01/01 - 00:07

Hi All,

Sorry that I have not been able to contribute lately. I have been on holidays and travelling to places with reduced internet capabilities.

I will comment here again rather than to one of the other few discussions that have been created and might get people lost.

Thanks Kester and Frans for your answer I just want to add that it is great to use some of the modules you are explaining but I still don't understand why the simpler things are not done better first and then put more time into the more complex ones. I know using the modules page as an example of site speed is not a measure of what a normal page takes to load but it is a great measure of the amount of modules you are using. My opinion is that things should be kept simple, get the simple things right and the rest will follow. You just need to a site to publish volunteer opportunities, villages and for users to be able to find their way through both. That really does not need a huge amount of modules. As an example, look at Kiva.org as an example. Not the best looking site but it is doing the work, why?, they are keeping it simple. Opportunities search based on 6 simple fields on a sortable table. The formula is really not that hard. Keep it simple.

I still have mixed feelings about the NabuurCamp but would like to hear what others think about it. Maybe there is another discussion about it somewhere else but did not get a chance to find it.

Getting volunteers involved in development and other things is great but expecting that it could run just with volunteers is what I am not so sure about. In any camp concept there is always a leader of the project that will do all the hard continuous work. I give myself as an example, I love helping and I thought I was going to have time while on holidays but the reality is other, we all have things we need to attend to survive and to continue our lives, time over a weekend is fine but in the long run I don;t think it is sustainable to expect people to put add a constant amount of time over a long period of time and on a volunteering basis.

Just one questions I would like ask before applying to be at the camp:

- How many volunteer web developers and designers with experience in community building and Drupal 6 have applied to be at the camp?

I would love to hear what others think.

Raul

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Hi Raul,

Sorry, it really doesn't make sense answering Kester in this thread. I see you've copied the post in the development thread, I think Kester will find it there. I'll also copy the bit about the NABUUR Camp to that group.

If this way of organizing the different discussions doesn't work for you and you have a better idea - let me know. Keeping everything in one thread doesn't work for me.

Pelle

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Hi Pelle,

Yes, it does not work for me that way. The one in the development one is for Kester and the other one is for everyone else to see. I feel there are things here that matter to everyone not just to Kester.

I also find it frustrating that while we try to stay positive and finding a way to stay active in the current situation the only thing I hear from you is a complaint regarding re-posting for all to see a comment that I feel not only matters to the development team.

Best wishes,

Raul

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Principal
Biju Narzary
Holy Child Children Home for Orphans and Poor of Very poor
Dist: Udalguri
Pin: 784509

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I really have a tight schedule and to be able to meet up a village and talk to the community is one thing....to tell you that in the internet is quite another......DONT ASSUME that what is on the ground and what is written is the same....look at one post where someone is posting pictures and talking about his project while on that post people are talking about how to run Nabuur?Thats what you get before doing a needs assessment...thats what you get for not letting people know how to work on the net...thats what you get when you have NOT been to villages.....there is a total confusion with how messages and what is being said.....apart from that i think get a wide range of views....if we continue putting ourselves in a "group" of people who keep it...even in the forums and the villages at one time i though that its was a post just for a few people who have been chosen by that village and i quit giving my input and thats what i think Open up to others.

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i wish to inform you that am intersted to join nabuur on line

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muirunjui

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